“We need every citizen to be knowledgeable and informed”Right now, there’s a major information asymmetry between — what these tools are capable of and what they’re currently doing, and the vast majority of the public. We need to bridge that gap. And we need technologists alongside us in that fight.”

– Kade Crawford, Director of the Tech for Liberty Program at ACLU of Mass”

Security advocates focus on the systems that protect our privacy and keep us, and our data, safe. Those who work at the intersection of security and tech—like cyber security expert Bruce Schneier and security engineer and digital researcher Etienne Maynier—are using their expertise to serve the greater public good. We call them public interest technologists.


Public interest tech is about all of us. To thrive, it needs the talent and dedication of people, organizations, and funders.

Which One Are You?

Transcript

BRUCE SCHNEIER: Everything we do that involves a computer produces data about that interaction. What happened? Who did it? Where it was. That’s very valuable and very personal. It’s surveillance data. And we need as society to figure out how to get the group benefits of it while maintaining the security of it individually.

Public interest technologist, Bruce Schneier. I guess this is take one. Clap.

[A white bearded man wearing a flat cap and a floral shirt.]

Security is something that affects all of us at the individual level, the family level, the community level, the national level, the global level. An easy example will be Waze. I used Waze to get here today. A driver phone application that tells me about traffic based on every user of Waze under surveillance. So, enormous group benefit yet everyone under surveillance. How do we get that benefit while maintaining security? It’s not just security. It’s future of work, it’s food safety, it’s transportation, or medical data. I think there’s enormous value in putting all of our medical data in one giant database and letting researchers at it. Yet that’s incredibly private and incredibly personal. How do we make that work? Core tech decisions have policy ramifications. Policy decisions have tech ramifications. And policy makers need to understand tech in the same way tech people need to understand policy. And, to me, a public interest technologist is someone who understands that and tries to bridge the tech and policy worlds. I want everyone to think about the public interest ramifications of their work. And I want some of us to go into public interest tech as the thing we do. Maybe as a full-time career, maybe as a sabbatical, as a couple-year break from this startup and that big tech company. The demand for this kind of work is enormous. Tech is shaping the contours of the future more than anything else. And how that future looks has to depend on what we as society want. It can’t just be what the tech permits. And the only way we can have these conversations at the right time with the right people is by having people who understand tech involved in the policy from the beginning.

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“Tech is shaping the contours of the future more than anything else. And how that future looks has to depend on what we as a society want. It can’t just be what the tech permits.”

– Bruce Schneier, Public Interest and Security Technologist

Cybersecurity expert Bruce Schneier explains how we can use surveillance data to benefit the public good, while navigating uncharted technological territory and maintaining our individual security.